<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914765915950240855.post7919761036138671379..comments</id><updated>2009-11-10T20:38:55.969-05:00</updated><category term='H.2 Depravity'/><category term='H.3.f Governmental Atonement'/><category term='I.a Baptist'/><category term='G.d Faith'/><category term='W.2.g John Wesley'/><category term='I THE CHURCH'/><category term='B.4.1 Eternal Procession'/><category term='B.1.c.1 Occham'/><category term='D PROVIDENCE'/><category term='D.1 Molinism'/><category term='V REFLECTIONS ON SCRIPTURE'/><category term='X DEBATES'/><category term='W.2.j Richard Watson'/><category term='C CREATION'/><category term='B.1.b Worship'/><category term='B.4.2 Consubstantial'/><category term='W.2.d Daniel Whitby'/><category term='H.4.b Whitby&apos;s Discorses'/><category term='F.1 THE FALL'/><category term='W.8 Gottschalk'/><category term='G.a Justification'/><category term='G THE GOSPEL'/><category term='I.3.a Pope'/><category term='W.2.h Daniel Whedon'/><category term='B.2 Christ'/><category term='H.4 Resistible Grace'/><category term='W.5 Sub-Lapsarian'/><category term='W.7 Council of Arles'/><category term='W.2.b John Goodwin'/><category term='I.2 Apostles'/><category term='B.1.c Foreknowledge'/><category term='Z ABOUT ME'/><category term='W.5.b John Calvin'/><category term='W.2 Arminianism'/><category term='X.6 Dave Armstrong'/><category term='H.3 Christ&apos;s death'/><category term='A.1.a Greek Texts'/><category term='B.1.g Omniscience'/><category term='H.3.b Top 10 reasons to believe Christ died for all'/><category term='W.4 Semi-Pelagianism'/><category term='H.3.c Refutation of Arguments against Unlimited Atonement'/><category term='I.3 Roman Catholicism'/><category term='H.1 Conditional Election'/><category term='E.3 Bavinck on Predestination'/><category term='X.2 Freewill -Triablogue'/><category term='U Intertesting Links'/><category term='W.1 Owens'/><category term='W.2.I Robert Shank'/><category term='H.3.d Review of Owen&apos;s Understanding of the Atonement'/><category term='H.1.c Romans 9'/><category term='W.2.b James Arminius'/><category term='D.1.a Grounding Objection'/><category term='A.1.a Sola Scriptura'/><category term='c.3.c Determinism'/><category term='W.2 Arminianism.W.2.a Episcopius'/><category term='Y COWBOYS'/><category term='H SOTERIOLOGY'/><category term='H.1.a Boettner&apos;s Reformed Doctrine of Predestination'/><category term='E.4 Supralapsarian'/><category term='W.5.a Dort'/><category term='W.4 Church Fathers'/><category term='W.9 Turretin'/><category term='C.3.b Edwards&apos; Freedom of the Will'/><category term='A.2 Councils'/><category term='W.3 Pelagianism'/><category term='W.2.f Remonstrants'/><category term='X.3 Turretinfan'/><category term='G.b Regeneration'/><category term='H.3.a Death of Death in the Death of Christ'/><category term='G.c Order of Salvation'/><category term='X.1 Romans 9 Debate'/><category term='A PROLOG'/><category term='C.3.a Compatiblist Arminianism'/><category term='H.3.e Atonement Theories'/><category term='W HISTORY'/><category term='G.e Baptism'/><category term='A.1 Scripture'/><category term='B.1.f Omnipotence'/><category term='W.010 Thomas Aquinas'/><category term='B.1.c.a Anthropomorphism'/><category term='B.1.d Open Theism'/><category term='W.4.a Augustine'/><category term='E.5 Sublapsarian'/><category term='E PREDESTINATION'/><category term='F.1.a Original Sin'/><category term='A.4 Liberal Theology'/><category term='H.5 Perseverance'/><category term='F THE LAW'/><category term='X.4 Mitch'/><category term='W.2.e Limorch'/><category term='T Weekly Wesley'/><category term='B GOD'/><category term='D.3 Hardening'/><category term='H.4.a Hodge on Vocation'/><category term='X.5 Theojunkie'/><category term='B.1.e Middle Knowledge'/><category term='B.4 Trinity'/><category term='C.3 FREEWILL'/><category term='W.6 Supra-Lapsarian'/><title type='text'>Comments on Arminian Chronicles: Luke's Use of Pluperfects of Completed Action</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.arminianchronicles.com/feeds/7919761036138671379/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1914765915950240855/7919761036138671379/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.arminianchronicles.com/2009/11/lukes-use-of-pluperfects-of-completed.html'/><author><name>Godismyjudge</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05310455924556730920</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='30' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1E_v7O-3W7g/S0ijeLenxPI/AAAAAAAAAIk/Gh8o_LY7a4Y/s1600-R/438px_Dallas_Cowboys_svg111107072248.png'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>2</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914765915950240855.post-841127949177292721</id><published>2009-11-10T20:38:55.969-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-10T20:38:55.969-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Go Share Your Faith,

Thanks for sharing your...</title><content type='html'>Dear Go Share Your Faith,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for sharing your thougths.  Here&amp;#39;s an example of where I am coming from:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Luke 2:49 But 1 he replied, 2 “Why were you looking for me? 3 Didn’t you &lt;b&gt;know&lt;/b&gt; that I must be in my Father’s house?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ok so &amp;#39;know&amp;#39; is pluperfect.  Now it could be a pluperfect of action or a pluperfect of existing state.  But how to tell the difference?  What if all we had was:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Didn’t you &lt;b&gt;know&lt;/b&gt; that I must be in my Father’s house?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One might conclude it&amp;#39;s a pluperfect of existing state; what&amp;#39;s important is that they knew.  But put back into it&amp;#39;s context: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But 1 he replied, 2 “Why were you looking for me? 3 Didn’t you &lt;b&gt;know&lt;/b&gt; that I must be in my Father’s house?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What&amp;#39;s important is that they knew just before they were looking. It would not do to say they knew in the distant past, but no longer do. The fact that the action took place in the narrative has explanitory significance.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, back to Acts 13:48.   The fact that they were ordained to eternal life helps explain why they believed.  But an event happening within the context is the best candidate to provide such an explanation.  If it&amp;#39;s not an event happening in the context (if it&amp;#39;s simply background info.) then it doesn&amp;#39;t have the explainitory power an event just prior to their belief that lead to their belief would have.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Predestination in and of itself doesn&amp;#39;t explain why they believed right then and there.  God predestines some to believe very early in life and some on their death bed.  But an event in the context could provide an explination as to why they believed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God be with you,&lt;br /&gt;Dan</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1914765915950240855/7919761036138671379/comments/default/841127949177292721'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1914765915950240855/7919761036138671379/comments/default/841127949177292721'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.arminianchronicles.com/2009/11/lukes-use-of-pluperfects-of-completed.html?showComment=1257903535969#c841127949177292721' title=''/><author><name>Godismyjudge</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05310455924556730920</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://dpc.uba.uva.nl/k/krp/thumb/0/0/3/2004_06_21_003.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.arminianchronicles.com/2009/11/lukes-use-of-pluperfects-of-completed.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914765915950240855.post-7919761036138671379' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1914765915950240855/posts/default/7919761036138671379' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-536187748'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914765915950240855.post-4545555935403746011</id><published>2009-11-10T13:09:06.684-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-10T13:09:06.684-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Hmm....I read your assertion and I read your passa...</title><content type='html'>Hmm....I read your assertion and I read your passages to prove it and I don&amp;#39;t think you were successful in making your case..</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1914765915950240855/7919761036138671379/comments/default/4545555935403746011'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1914765915950240855/7919761036138671379/comments/default/4545555935403746011'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.arminianchronicles.com/2009/11/lukes-use-of-pluperfects-of-completed.html?showComment=1257876546684#c4545555935403746011' title=''/><author><name>Go Share Your Faith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10494251154976285819</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.arminianchronicles.com/2009/11/lukes-use-of-pluperfects-of-completed.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914765915950240855.post-7919761036138671379' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1914765915950240855/posts/default/7919761036138671379' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-481017454'/></entry></feed>
